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FTS: But its not like an instant kill, where if something touched the cloth it would immediately become immobilized?
Williams: Well, its hard for us to recover them and find any survivors in less than two minutes. We have to process the piece of cloth. Probably some are dying in seconds. But we cant process that cloth and recover them and count the survivors; it takes us two minutes to do that.
FTS: And its a fairly mild solution of chlorine that you use to rejuvenate the process?
Williams: Were titrating down the amount of chlorine, but typically a product like Clorox tells you to put 1/2 cup in a load of wash; you can go way below that and still charge these textiles very effectively. You dont need much.
FTS: With products youve already done some testing on, like the socks and the hotel bedding, is the fabric able to kill enough bacteria to keep the odor down while the product is in use?
Williams: Weve just started to do that sort of wearer trial, and the first data weve gotten on this is really good. Weve had people wear these socks for several days at a time and find an amazing amount of odor control. Weve had T-shirts that people have worn through several workouts on several days; stick them in a locker bag and at the end of three days exhibit tremendous odor control, so were confident about the performance.
FTS: Obviously you have to shepherd these concepts carefully through R&D and HACCP; which government regulatory agencies are you working with?
Williams: Certainly in the United States youve got a whole host of regulatory agencies that effect the use of a product like this in food service areas or in health care. Where we have the most latitude is at the consumer textile level, where we are looking to cooperate with athletic wear companies to create lines of anti-odor T-shirts, underwear and socks...and thats probably going to be the easiest path to market in the United States.
FTS: Who regulates that?
Williams: The EPA.
FTS: How odd...but I guess odors are part of the environment.
Williams: Yes, and like most federal regulatory agencies, they are the most comfortable with conventional approaches and least comfortable with anything novel. Thats somewhat of an inhibition to innovation. But nonetheless the agency has the legal responsibility to approve products that go into the marketplace with the kinds of claims we want to make, so thats who we work with.
FTS: How long do you expect it to take?
Williams: The odor control application, were confident that we can get products into the marketplace next year. The applications in health care, were looking at FDA involvement in doctors offices or doctors uniforms or bedding...those are going to take quite a while.
FTS: So, as of right now you really dont have a product on the market?
Williams: No. We got the company financed one year ago. And we spent this year in part doing some product development chemistry, working with chemical plants to make the polymers, and working out quality control procedures for manufacturing both in the United States and overseas.
FTS: But you hold the patents?
Williams: We hold patents for all the applications for N-halamines worldwide. So we can look at applications that range anywhere from cutting boards to swimming pools to diapers.
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